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		<title>Plantinga&#8217;s Warrant, remixed</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thrust of Plantinga&#8217;s notion of Warrant is essentially this: belief in God is &#8220;properly basic&#8221; and so belief in God is warranted. In saying a concept is properly basic, we mean it appears fundamental to human experience and thought, and is manifest across time and culture. This is why the Flying Spagetti Monster or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thrust of Plantinga&#8217;s notion of Warrant is essentially this: belief in God is &#8220;properly basic&#8221; and so belief in God is warranted. In saying a concept is properly basic, we mean it appears fundamental to human experience and thought, and is manifest across time and culture. This is why the Flying Spagetti Monster or Russell&#8217;s Teapot are not defeaters to the validity of belief; they&#8217;re not properly basic. They are arbitrary human inventions (and so too could be conceptions of the Abrahamaic God). However, the pure concept &#8220;God&#8221; extends far beyond an isolated, arbitrary whim.</p>
<p>The argument then is not that God <em>must</em> exist – or that a particular God does exist – rather, that belief is at the very least <em>warranted</em>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been batting around a possible way to extend the argument a tad further.</p>
<p>Now, Plantinga also argues that since we readily accept that other people have minds – have consciousness – again, belief in God (being similar, albeit more grand) is warranted.</p>
<p>Even though I can test for the presence of consciousness, I can&#8217;t ever really prove that any person HAS consciousness as I do; that they truly have a perspective, are subjects, are self-referencing, self-aware, etc. I simply trust that fellow humans are conscious just as I am conscious.</p>
<p>This is, it seems, a <em>probabilistic</em> argument. Even though a decisive empirical observation of consciousness is impossible (in my view), the probability that a conscious mind is present in my neighbour is <em>good enough</em>.</p>
<p>I would suggest that not only is belief in my neighbour&#8217;s mind warranted, it is also <em>valid</em>, and &#8220;valid enough&#8221; to be considered true.</p>
<p>It appears to me that most every concept, be it a logical or scientific fact, carries with it a degree of probability. Apart from the statements, &#8220;something exists,&#8221; and, &#8220;nothing does not exist,&#8221; I&#8217;d be hard pressed to come up with another absolute; even logical proofs like A = A and A ≠ not A, are beginning to seem as though they might have probabilistic properties.</p>
<p>I say this for two reasons; one, logic necessarily seems self-evident and indefatigable. Just as space and time are necessary categories that allow for thought, so too is logic; but this seems circular to me. We cannot see around our own eyes. The validity of this is supported by the second reason, that being the rather &#8220;illogical&#8221; activity that takes place at the quantum level. While in the world of atoms logic holds, below it, logic appears to unravel. Causality goes bye bye. Something can be itself, and something else. Logic, then, does not hold in all occasions; it is not universal.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m willing to allow that gaps might get filled in we may find an extremely logical foundation for the quantum, for the time being, let&#8217;s allow that it might be contra-logical.</p>
<p>&#8220;Might&#8221; being the keyword.</p>
<p>The implication is that logic itself may be probabilistic, meaning that it is probably true, but not necessarily true.</p>
<p>Now, the idea I&#8217;m playing with is that high probability equals high validity. Once something crosses a probabilistic threshold, we can consider it, for all intents and purposes, to be true.</p>
<p>Again, using logic as the example; not only is belief in logic warranted, but the probability of logic being true is so high that we can consider it valid, or better, we should consider it valid; and so, it ought to be believed.</p>
<p>Therefore, given the conditions that make belief in God warranted, I would argue that a probabilistic threshold further compels us to declare such belief to also valid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this holds up, and I&#8217;m not sure if Plantinga&#8217;s taken the argument that far (he might have). It&#8217;s just something I&#8217;ve been batting around the past few days.</p>
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		<title>oh valiant warrior</title>
		<link>http://www.roestudios.com/b-log/2008/08/oh-valiant-warrior/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the past few months I&#8217;ve been mulling over the various arguments regarding Christian pacifism, and there&#8217;s one argument I&#8217;m exploring that I feel needs serious consideration. 1st Samuel 16:18 says, &#8220;Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite who is a skillful musician, a mighty man of valor, a warrior, one prudent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the past few months I&#8217;ve been mulling over the <a href="http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/a-tentative-biblico-theological-thesis-about-pacifism/">various arguments regarding Christian pacifism</a>, and there&#8217;s one argument I&#8217;m exploring that I feel needs serious consideration.</p>
<p>1st Samuel 16:18 says, &#8220;Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite who is a skillful musician, a mighty man of valor, <em>a warrior</em>, one prudent in speech, and a handsome man; and <em>the LORD is with him</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Got hates sin. It is impossible that God could esteem sin, and yet, God esteems warriors. The only conclusion that makes any sense is that being a warrior is not in itself sinful, otherwise God could not esteem it.</p>
<p>In the Old Testament, strength in combat was considered a praiseworthy attribute, and God placed honour upon those that were skillful in battle. We read of David that his valor and military skill were not simply commendable, but were also <em>parallel and coincident</em> with the presence of God in his life.</p>
<p>Now, what this means for Christians today is not immediately clear, though one thing is certain: God esteems that valiant warrior.</p>
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		<title>how to be spiritual</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#8217;s fairly easy to determine if one is being spiritual by looking at the fruit: is that person loving, joyful, peaceful, patient, kind, good-hearted, faithful, gentle, and self-controlled? Are they all these things? The absence of fruit most certainly reveals an absence of Spirit – the Spirit alone causes growth. But in terms [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fairly easy to determine if one is being spiritual by looking at the fruit: is that person loving, joyful, peaceful, patient, kind, good-hearted, faithful, gentle, and self-controlled? Are they <strong>all</strong> these things? The absence of fruit most certainly reveals an absence of Spirit – the Spirit alone causes growth.</p>
<p>But in terms of our duty, <a href="http://www.hornes.org/mark/2006/11/27/how-to-be-spiritual-according-to-the-bible/" target="_blank">Mark Horne has a rather unusual yet near perfect assemblage of Scriptures</a> that show what the daily life of a spiritual person looks like.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hornes.org/mark/2006/11/27/how-to-be-spiritual-according-to-the-bible/" target="_blank">Go read.</a></p>
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		<title>careful what you say</title>
		<link>http://www.roestudios.com/b-log/2008/07/careful-what-you-say/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve decided to pull this post for the time being until I&#8217;m entirely satisfied with my interpretation of the Unpardonable Sin. A fantastic interpretation by Mark Horne can be found here. It doesn&#8217;t completely satisfy me, but I think it&#8217;s elegantly succinct, and helps to clear up most of the questions surrounding this passage of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve decided to pull this post for the time being until I&#8217;m entirely satisfied with my interpretation of the Unpardonable Sin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hornes.org/theologia/mark-horne/blasphemy-against-the-holy-spirit">A fantastic interpretation by Mark Horne can be found here</a>. It doesn&#8217;t completely satisfy me, but I think it&#8217;s elegantly succinct, and helps to clear up most of the questions surrounding this passage of Scripture.</p>
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		<title>reflections on romans 13: individual rights are not group rights</title>
		<link>http://www.roestudios.com/b-log/2008/06/reflections-on-romans-13-individual-rights-are-not-group-rights/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been bandying back and forth with Andrew on City of God (here too) over the weekend about pacifism and the justification for the State&#8217;s (meaning government in general, not specifically the USA) use of force. I thought I would post the comment here regarding Romans 13. It&#8217;s nothing new, but I think it&#8217;s useful. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I&#8217;ve been bandying back and forth with <a href=" http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/a-tentative-biblico-theological-thesis-about-pacifism/" target="_blank">Andrew on City of God</a> (<a href="http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/love-your-enemies-part-ii/">here too</a>) over the weekend about pacifism and the justification for the State&#8217;s (meaning government in general, not specifically the USA) use of force. I thought I would post the comment here regarding Romans 13. It&#8217;s nothing new, but I think it&#8217;s useful.</em></p>
<p>God has ordained the State’s power. He has not only ordained its power, but has approved its use of <strong>force</strong>. How do we know this?</p>
<p>From Romans 13 we know the State <em>has</em> force (it bears the sword) but we <em>also</em> know that it is right for the State to <strong>use</strong> that force (it does not bear the sword <strong>in vain</strong> – lit. inconsiderately; without <strong>just</strong> cause).</p>
<p>According to the passage, the State does bear the Sword unjustly. Who is the arbiter of justice? The Lord. Who has placed the sword into the hands of government? Also the Lord. Therefore, the Lord has deemed it just (thus right) for the State to use the sword. In fact, the State exists <strong>for that very purpose</strong>.</p>
<p>Now, if one takes “not in vain” to mean “God uses evil for good,” I think one is playing fast and loose with the passage; it is emphatic that what we see here is not the &#8220;accidental&#8221; will of God, but rather the very specific, foreordained will of God. God is not turning lemons into lemonade. Granted, force wouldn&#8217;t be needed if there was no sin, so in a way there will always be an &#8220;accidental&#8221; quality to justice. This, however, does not mean that God&#8217;s will for the State to use force in a fallen economy is <em>itself</em> accidental. The passage has a bias and this bias is toward intentionality. God is not improvising, He&#8217;s being intentional regarding the State. Thus, in it&#8217;s justice it is justified.</p>
<p>Now, Rom 12 just told us not to take revenge <em>for ourselves</em>, but that revenge is the Lord’s…</p>
<p><em>&#8220;But Apostle Paul, how does the Lord avenge us?”</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Keep reading! It’s in the next chapter!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sometimes the Lord is pleased to avenge us through Divine intervention, but He often works through a minister or agent. What is His agent of revenge? Who bears the sword on His behalf? The State! How do we know this? Rom 13 says so! It calls the State a minister of God&#8217;s justice – an avenger.</p>
<p>Consider, much of the law, the “10 Commandments” in particular, are directed toward individual conduct. This is why the Israelite army could go and kill yet not be in violation of the Law. God was not being inconsistent in anyway or creating a special &#8220;alternate&#8221; Law so that He could calling them to war – <strong>different rules apply to the State than do to the individual.</strong></p>
<p>Therefore, Paul’s reminder not to avenge <em>ourselves</em> does not necessarily apply to the State. In fact we see that Rom 13 justifies the State in using force (God establishes the State<em> so that</em> it can execute His judgments, and it wields the sword rightly, justly, “unaccidentally”).</p>
<p>Parents use the family credit card – children cannot. I must obey the speed limit – police can be exempt. The judicial system can incarcerate someone for decades – I would be prosecuted for doing the so.</p>
<p>What is true for the individual is not always true for the group, and the apparent tension between Romans 12 and Romans 13 is resolved when we grant this.</p>
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		<title>finding kenneth miller’s universe, part three: morality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The third premise that Kenneth Miller presents is as follows: &#8220;evolution may explain the existence of our most basic biological drives and desires, but that does not tell us that it is always proper to act on them.&#8221; I do not see, based on the goals of the evolutionary process what is required for evolution [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third premise that Kenneth Miller presents is as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;evolution may explain the existence of our most basic biological drives and desires, but that does not tell us that it is always proper to act on them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I do not see, based on the goals of the evolutionary process what is required for evolution to succeed, how this claim can be true?</p>
<p>1) If our Universe is <em>independent</em>, by definition, every moral principle inside the Universe must be developed internally.</p>
<p>2) If we are creatures that have evolved, the doctrine of <em>Survival of the Fittest</em> is the ultimate, primary, and most reliable basis for the establishment of moral truth. Thus, <em>any</em> action that promotes my survival is justified.</p>
<p>According to evolution, <em>Survival of the Fittest</em> is conclusively, inextricably connected to life. Life depends on this principle &#8212; if Miller is right. Based on his premise, advantageous acts must be morally justifiable. Theft and murder and rape can all enable me to survive and pass on my genetic material to future generations, making the acts morally justifiable. We find examples of this throughout the animal kingdom.</p>
<p>The animal kingdom, of which we apparently are a part, is within the Universe, and the Universe is apparently independent. Now, Miller keeps assuring the reader, &#8220;Well, we have to look elsewhere for our morality,&#8221; but what is the justification in doing so? <em>Looking elsewhere for anything taking place within the Universe renders the Universe not <strong>independent!</strong></em> Independence demands that nothing external be sought out or included. Why does Miller set aside morality and meaning, giving them special privileges? Either the Universe is independent or it is not, and we can&#8217;t allow these kinds of logical contradictions in our thinking.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t test Christ&#8217;s ideas in the same way that I can test evolutionary principles. Assuming Miller&#8217;s premise, why would anyone be more justified in looking to Christ for morality than to evolutionary principles? In fact, since this is an independent self-sufficient Universe in which human life is the result of evolution, I am actually <em>more</em> justified in looking to evolutionary principles as a basis for morality than I am to Christ. This leaves theft, murder, and rape open to me (being advantageous acts) and renders Christ useless (as His presence compromises the independence of the Universe).</p>
<p>Miller, and anyone else that holds to evolution, believes essentially that humanity is no more important than any other species of living thing. Sure, we might have a leg up in some areas, but all things being equal, we&#8217;re all just an amalgam of cells that have &#8220;made it.&#8221; On this grid there is no need or use for Christ and so it would be interesting to hear why Miller believes humans are in need of a Saviour at all.</p>
<p>In closing, here are some questions I would like to as Mr Miller:</p>
<p>At what point in human evolution did we become savable as a species?</p>
<p>Are all creatures savable? Is it conceivable that there could be a Gopher Jesus, and Zebra Jesus, and an Amoeba Jesus?</p>
<p>Since Christ took on human flesh, and ascended in bodily form to heaven, does Miller believe that the incarnation made Christ <em>part animal</em>?</p>
<p>When did the simple evolutionary instincts that allowed humanity to evolve transform into the <em>existential quandary of sin</em> &#8212; <strong>why are evolutionarily advantageous acts sinful at all?</strong></p>
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		<title>finding kenneth miller&#8217;s universe, part two: free will</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miller seems to believe that if God had simply created mankind, that in so doing, man would be devoid of free will. Miller again writes: &#8220;All things would move toward the Creator&#8217;s clear, distinct, established goals. Such control and predictability, however, comes at the price of independence. Always in control, such a Creator would deny [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller seems to believe that if God had simply created mankind, that in so doing, man would be devoid of free will. Miller again writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;All things would move toward the Creator&#8217;s clear, distinct, established goals. Such control and predictability, however, comes at the price of independence. Always in control, such a Creator would deny his creatures any real opportunity to know and worship him &#8211; authentic love requires freedom, not manipulation. Such freedom is best supplied by the open contingency of evolution.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For some reason, and who knows why, Miller has it set in his mind that God is <i>incapable</i> of creating a creature that is capable of true free will, and that the only way free will becomes possible is to have God at arms length. What on earth is the possible justification for this? Miller is creating a false choice here. There is no good reason why believing that God can create a fully developed creature precludes its free will. Why should it? Miller admits in the excerpt that he believes God is in fact capable of creating a person out of nothing &#8212; why does Miller then think that a God who could do this could not go one tiny step further and create that person with truly free will! The very act of creating a person out of nothing defies all known physical laws. Clearly a God that is capable of doing this (as Miller believes He is) is capable of <i>anything</i>.</p>
<p>This blends into another, very important issue: i<i>s the free will Miller talks about a matter for our biology or for the soul?</i> Does Miller believe that souls exist and if so, how is it that they come about? The burden of proof is on the Christian evolutionist to provide a naturalistic explanation for how the soul might come about, and of course to do this, they need to first prove scientifically that the soul even exists at all.</p>
<p>There are essentially three possibilities that Miller must accept:</p>
<p>a) If sin and free will are matters for the body, then Miller&#8217;s being a Christian is a waste of time, as the soul is nothing but myth, and there&#8217;s nothing Christ needed to save us from.</p>
<p>b) If sin and free will are matters for the soul, but Miller believes the soul develops naturalistically, then the burden of proof is on him to prove that the soul even exists, and how it comes to be. He will then have the difficult task of explaining how it is this naturalistic soul can even be saved unto a supernatural paradise, or why this naturalistic soul even needs saving at all (as death would simply be the end, with no eternity to worry about).</p>
<p>c) If Miller believes in the soul, and that God in fact does create souls, then it&#8217;s altogether irrelevant if we evolved or not as far as free will is concerned as <i>the agent of free will (the soul) was still created by God</i>!</p>
<p>The only possibility that makes any sense in a Christian system sees sin and free will as matters for the soul, and sees the soul as a supernatural entity. This completely destroys the foundation for Miller&#8217;s entire argument of a theological justification for evolution&#8211; God&#8217;s creating a biological shell poses no hindrance to free will as true free will is necessarily the property of a supernatural agent &#8212; the soul &#8212; thus exempt from the process of evolution.</p>
<p>Any way you slice it, Miller&#8217;s argument when coupled with His Christianity collapses into meaninglessness.</p>
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		<title>why christ&#8217;s humanity had to be perfect</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On City of God in the course of a discussion on the ethics of homosexuality, Matthew made this comment: &#8220;Christ was capable of sin in his humanity but not in his divinity. Therefore, his temptation was real, because he was tempted in his humanity, but not in his divinity. However, Christ was not perfect in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <a href="http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/">City of God</a> in the course of a <a href="http://civitatedei.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/poser-or-prophet-and-gay-marriage/">discussion on the ethics of homosexuality</a>, Matthew made this comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Christ was capable of sin in his humanity but not in his divinity. Therefore, his temptation was real, because he was tempted in his humanity, but not in his divinity. However, <i>Christ was not perfect in his humanity until after the resurrection</i>. Nonetheless, he remained perfect in his divinity throughout his time on earth.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought more about this and disagree. Christ had to have been perfect in His humanity. I came to this conclusion:</p>
<p><i>Perfection</i> essentially means to be without flaw. Fair enough?</p>
<p>Now, Christ was a sacrifice for sin and we can learn about what was required of Him for this role by examining that which foreshadowed Him &#8212; Old Testament sacrifice. Now a lamb chosen for sacrifice had to be blemishless &#8212; without flaw, that is, perfect. Since lambs don&#8217;t have souls, what had to blemishless was its body. That is, <i>the part of the lamb that <b>could</b> be sacrificed needed to be perfect</i>.</p>
<p>Now, come back to Christ and continue the logic: whatever part of Him that could be sacrificed needed to be perfect. We know that His Divinity was not what sacrificed. It was distressed and removed from the Father, yes, but his Godhood did not die. Of course His body died, however, the component of Christ that was truly crushed for us was the entirety of His humanity. Christ&#8217;s humanity was sacrificed. In order for Christ to be a viable sacrifice for sin, the part of Him that could be sacrificed &#8212; His humanity &#8212; needed to be perfect.</p>
<p>Given His sacrificial role, Christ being perfect prior to crucifixion was far more necessary than for Him to be perfect afterward.</p>
<p>Also consider that Christ is referred to as the second Adam, and we know that Christ did not have a sin nature. Christ&#8217;s human life was the result of God&#8217;s creation, not human sexual activity &#8212; like Adam. So whatever conclusions we come to about Christ&#8217;s <i>humanity</i> hold true for Adam&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>finding kenneth miller&#8217;s universe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m often baffled by the duality scientists so regularly inject into the Creation/Evolution discussion. They are swift to accuse proponents of Creation or Intelligent Design as offering a kind of &#8220;pseudo-science.&#8221; However, when defending their own ideas scientists offer in return a kind of &#8220;pseudo-philosophy.&#8221; The latter I find to be more problematic. The foundation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m often baffled by the duality scientists so regularly inject into the Creation/Evolution discussion. They are swift to accuse proponents of Creation or <a title="Intelligent Design" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design">Intelligent Design</a> as offering a kind of &#8220;pseudo-science.&#8221; However, when defending their own ideas scientists offer in return a kind of &#8220;pseudo-philosophy.&#8221; The latter I find to be more problematic. The foundation of an idea is more critical than the idea itself. In the <a title="excerpt from his book Finding Darwin's God" href="http://www.findingdarwinsgod.com/excerpt/index.html">excerpt from his book <span style="font-style: italic;">Finding Darwin&#8217;s God</span></a>, Kenneth Miller presents several arguments on the topic, and each one is predicated on a very weak philosophical and theological foundation.</p>
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Let me state my premise: the Christian is philosophically prohibited from accepting evolution. I will be challenging Miller&#8217;s view on the grounds that a <em>Christian</em> has certain intellectual obligations that he cannot simply do away with for convenience&#8217;s sake. There are certain foundationals that the Believer must be take as <em>a priori</em> &#8212; a lens through which all other information passes &#8212; otherwise ones Faith is built on nothing but his own ideas.</p>
<p>Here are Miller&#8217;s chief arguments that I&#8217;ll be trying to refute:</p>
<p>1) That God created an independent, self-sustaining Universe</p>
<p>2) That if God had created mankind <em>ex nihilo</em> (out of nothing), it would negate man&#8217;s free will, thus man&#8217;s ability to truly love God (&#8220;such a Creator would deny his creatures any real opportunity to know and worship him &#8211; authentic love requires freedom, not manipulation.&#8221;)</p>
<p>3) That &#8220;evolution may explain the existence of our most basic biological drives and desires, but that does not tell us that it is always proper to act on them.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>1) God created and independent, self-sustaining Universe</strong></p>
<p>Miller has an issue with God creating a Universe that He must maintain or play an active role in the continuance of. Miller instead envisions a Universe which is essentially self-perpetuating, complete, and independent of Divine meddling. He seems to think that such a Universe would bear the maker&#8217;s hand in a far too obvious way, and that at every turn we would see God&#8217;s fingerprints, thus negating Faith. Miller writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>If he so chose, the God whose presence is taught by most Western religions could have fashioned anything, ourselves included, ex nihilo, from his wish alone&#8230;If a string of constant miracles were needed for each turn of the cell cycle or each flicker of a cilium, the hand of God would be written directly into every living thing &#8211; his presence at the edge of the human sandbox would be unmistakable. Such findings might confirm our faith, but they would also undermine our independence. How could we fairly choose between God and man when the presence and the power of the divine so obviously and so literally controlled our every breath? Our freedom as his creatures requires a little space and integrity. In the material world, it requires self-sufficiency and consistency with the laws of nature.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that Miller feels no compulsion to find harmony with the Scriptures (i.e. in Him we live and move and have our being; the Earth is the Lord&#8217;s and everything in it; God&#8217;s eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse), but that is a whole other discussion. Instead, let&#8217;s evaluate the practical implications of Miller&#8217;s statements for the Christian.</p>
<p>Based on his reasoning, a few very large problems arise. Firstly, Miller is begging the question: <em>God wouldn&#8217;t miraculously sustain life because we&#8217;d be able to observe Him doing so, and this sort of obvious involvement would leave no room for faith</em>.</p>
<p>Why is Miller so sure we would be able to observe the sustaining act of God? How can Miller assert this isn&#8217;t currently happening in ways that we cannot observe? The Scriptures certainly suggest this is so but for Miller, the possibility of seeing tiny miracles everywhere would prevent true faith since God&#8217;s presence would simply be an empirically observable phenomenon &#8212; just look under the microscope and see tiny angels inside every cell. But what does Miller imagine these tiny miracles would look like? How is he justified in saying that they are <em>not</em> present? I&#8217;m sure he believes the supernatural is not scientifically testable &#8212; after all, he talks about <em>Faith</em>, and Faith requires a certain amount of intellectual uncertainty (Miller himself is presenting that concept in the excerpt). This being the case, how can he be sure that there is not a miracle in each cell that cannot be observed but is nonetheless, there?</p>
<p>Miller is confusing issues. He&#8217;s presenting God&#8217;s <em>making Himself known</em> as an <em>afront to free will</em>. A verse I cited above, Romans 1:20, seems to have no problem with God making Himself known in an obvious way. Miller is a Christian and Christians believe in the deity of the man Jesus Christ. What could be more obvious than God himself walking in our midst! Free will suffers no hits in the light of God being accessible or obvious. He has been forthright throughout human history and people still refuse Him. This is just sloppy theology on Miller&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>Secondly, and most problematically, miracles are not even possible in Miller&#8217;s Universe. Miller&#8217;s whole premise is that the Universe is independent, self-consistent, and is limited to the laws governing it. For the Universe to hold together, it needs to be self-consistent. This means that anything miraculous must have a <em>naturalistic explanation</em> for the sake of consistency &#8212; this includes Christ&#8217;s Resurrection. This is an utterly impossible position for the Christian to subscribe to. A Universe in which miracles are impossible is a Universe entirely contrary to everything Christianity is based on, chiefly, the miracle of the Resurrection. The reason the Resurrection of Christ has any meaning at all is precisely because it was a Divine act, and not possible as a simple act of nature. However, what Miller is suggesting prevents such Divine infiltration. The laws of the Universe must be obeyed, and God has in some sense bound Himself to abide by those laws as far as this reality is concerned. By virtue of his position Miller essentially undercuts the core pillar of his belief system.</p>
<p>The third issue is simply this: how is it that God could even create a truly independent Universe? God&#8217;s involvement at any stage renders the Universe <em>non-independent</em>. The Universe would have to be self-creating to truly be and independent system. Why would God&#8217;s <em>creating</em> an independent Universe fill its parts with more integrity than if He had created its parts <em>ex nihilo</em>? God could very well have created the independent Universe with a built-in program of predestination, perhaps written into <em>strings</em>, which would see Him very literally &#8220;pulling the string of every human puppet, indeed of every material particle,&#8221; and manipulating events. Miller&#8217;s argument on this point is essentially moot: it does not remove the possibility of a meddlesome God at all. I believe Miller agrees that at some point God created <strong>something</strong>. So what makes this act less suspicious than creating an organism? Evolution is not a safeguard against God&#8217;s whims and there is no defensible reason for believing it is.</p>
<p>In the next post I&#8217;ll focus on the issue of free will, as for Miller, it seems to be the crux of his argument.</p>
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		<title>the jesus problem?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macleans has recently published an article (it was in fact, the cover story), in which certain leaders within the Church state they have come to the conclusion that removing Christ from our faith is the best course of action. You can read the article here. Are you as dumbfounded as me? Well, in response, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="float: left;" src="http://www.roestudios.com/b-log/wp-content/uploads/95-theses-small.jpg" alt="Martin Luther" width="127" height="120" />Macleans has recently published an article (it was in fact, the cover story), in which certain leaders within the Church state they have come to the conclusion that removing Christ from our faith is the best course of action.</p>
<p><a title="The Jesus Problem" href="http://www.macleans.ca/culture/lifestyle/article.jsp?content=20080319_64190_64190" target="_blank">You can read the article here.</a></p>
<p>Are you as dumbfounded as me?</p>
<p>Well, in response, I will be assembling <strong>95 points for the divinity and necessity of Christ</strong>.</p>
<p>Are you a Believer? A budding theologian? Are you best buds with a brilliant apologist? If so, please submit your points to me, or tell people who might be interested in this project to visit here.</p>
<p>To submit your points, simply leave them as comment to this post. I plan to publish and distribute the 95 most compelling points.</p>
<p><em>Laziness is complicity.</em></p>
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